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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:31:00 -
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I wanted to post this as someone asked. Meta data from the document shows some hard work went into its creation.
It was initially created 4/14/11 at 12:56 in Adobe InDesign 7.0. It had 414 revision saves. The last main save was 5/20/11 at 15:47 using Adobe InDesign 7.0. No Author information.
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: Caladan Broood on 22/06/2011 22:44:55
Anyone who wants the entire meta dump to see if you can see other goodies here is the xmp file: http://www.2shared.com/file/mcUilKUc/ccp_bulletin.html
You can verify all the saves, that is all it tracks. I'm thinking someone kept pressing ctrl-s while working out of habit. But you can see the timeline for the creation process, the password was added 2 days ago, I'm assuming by the blog.
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:57:00 -
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The slope is too steep here. If you allow faction standing to be bought then SP will be right around the corner. How about buying sov points next?
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.22 23:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Full unedited version from CCP
Emphasis.
Just checked the meta data on that, the same as the one going around that is missing the index page. All the save data is same for time and amount (414)
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.22 23:20:00 -
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Disclaimer that those are only the personal opinoins of the company. Who the hell do you think makes up the company? Is it some robot that randomly selects what to do or is it the developers who pitch their "great ideals" to the managers on how to make the game better (read: profitable and draw more money). These are the personal opinions of the CCPers but they are the opinions being pushed the hardest and suprisingly implemented in the game. 
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.22 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Xervish Krin
I'm not so sure that they would be quick to deny a fake.
Think how much we jump upon anything CCP says and tear it to shreds, sometimes deservingly, sometimes not.
If I were them, I'd want to be very careful about how to approach responding to this; even if it's a fake, most of us here believe it's real at least to a small degree. That means a crapload of planning, drafts and redrafts to ensure that nothing can be taken the wrong way, to ensure that the reply doesn't create even more rage, and so on.
A denial would have to come from someone pretty high up in the food chain and posted here. A simple denial by some CSM would be laughed at since they repeatedly said before they don't know what the developers are thinking.
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:03:00 -
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So how many of us will be banned for linking to the document and providing complete meta data  Bring it on CCP, the more you try to silence us the more and more it shows your true colors.
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Caladan Broood
So how many of us will be banned for linking to the document and providing complete meta data Bring it on CCP, the more you try to silence us the more and more it shows your true colors.
Space is black, how many shades of brown make black? I'm pretty sure you don't need the graphics hardware demands of Incarna to display them all.
 You're on my fav list now.
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jitaherp Derp
Did you miss the part where Liang confirmed it,
or the part where the original unedited version confirmed it,
or the part where the document file information confirmed it,
or the part where Riverini confirmed it,
or the part where CSM confirmed it,
or the part where CCP Soundwave confirmed that hes monitoring it,
or the part where Chribba confirmed it?
So which one is it?
Where is Chribba's post, I missed that one?
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
So, what happens when we click on CANCEL SUBSCRIPTION in account management?
Does that`just stop the REOCCURRING PAYMENT? The remanining game time continues, does the CC details get removed?
What happens once the time is up? We just have to select a new method of payment to continue?
My accounts are canceled and they show the remaining game time. At any time I can click "undo cancel subscription" from drop down menu, this is new. Or I can add game time via plex without need for credit card. Or I can change my subscription plan and CCP will generously reactivate my account and immediately charge my credit card (thus kept on file).
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Zendragon
Just effin' brilliant... great way to treat your customers, you know, the ones that pay your frickin wages?
12. CONCORD-for-hire! Turn your Sov 0.0 into your own personal HiSec with full CONCORD protection! 
Okay edit that one out, don't give them that kind of ideas.
RMT markets and bringing items into game will equal most development geared towards the RMT items. Why put that much into new "free" content where there is no return for the time devoted to development. Instead you can now monetize the developer's time and tie it to their bonus.
So developer works on free projects and updates with little bonus. But if developer starts producing RMT items at break neck speed their bonus is increased by a factor based on the sale and demand of that RMT items. Don't think this won't happen, it already occurs in the industry. Brain talent will go towards helping themselves. They will put minimal effort into fixing anything or testing anything that they give out free.
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2011 01:21:10
So, who wants to play Eve?
Who is actually logged in right now? Or are you just constant refreshing this page and logged off the client for more refresh rate?
Me, I kinda feel sick of it and not wanting to bother with the game atm.
Sorta refreshing and not playing. Saw your edit for larger text too
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:48:00 -
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This issue goes further than CCP adding in DLC at an absurd price. The issue relates back to game companies now starting to think they don't need to make complete games or items any more. For whatever reason, the companies are starting to make the "basic" play code and then hold back "premium" content for DLC later. So you are paying for an unfinished product. CCP is just starting to get into this market but look around at all the other games where they release the product and within a day or two they have dozens of maps, mods, weapons, etc ready for you to pay extra.
You have to ask, how much time went into the basic code and how much extra time was spent with DLC. Incarna has all the hallmarks of a new basic game frame ready to be plugged in with DLC. We can probably kiss goodbye anything good being added to the game in terms of content. Now if you want more exciting, difficult, better rewarding missions you can purchase them; new planets purchase; sov purchase it (in connection with Dust). CCP is retooling eve to be one huge DLC microtransaction universe where you also get the benefit of paying a monthly fee.
Did you really want an incursion in Jita, well for the low low price of 200k AU it can be purchased
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tammarr
Hmmm. As been suggested to me now.
The document contains in essence two extremely opposing views talking about MT, pulling qoutes of out the blue always looks bad.
It is quite possible the document is legit, and is an attempt to create inhouse debate over MT and try to get new ideas coming in.
Viewing the document in the light off an inhouse, start a debate source. Yeah, quite plausible and shouldnt be used to judge ccp.
But rather 'hey, how do you all feel about this. were should we be going with mt'
What do they actually say in the document? No they are arguing different points of views; They are saying precious little if you dont take qoutes out of context.
CCP alts should at least remember to log into their damn game and create an avatar before posting. Know how I know you haven't been into the game recently??
Second look at the opinion of one of the lead game designers carries more weight than a junior junior associate. Who do you think plays directly with management and has the most influence?
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 18:50:00 -
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We killed failheap.
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 21:49:00 -
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Companies do not switch to MT and FTP models because they make less money. They switch to them because it will draw more money than a simple subscription. Development costs money and a base subscription x players = fixed money intake.
Now you go to RMT and FTP models. Now each item developed will have a projected corresponding expected income. If certain classes of models do not bring in the money, they will no longer be developed. The company can zero focus on what the paying players want the most, specialize in that area, and rake in the money. This reduces overall development cost and you now know where to place development time.
Sure the overall framework has to be put in place, but it is only a frame work. If you want the dressing and fun, the player will have to pay for those pieces to hang. Gone will be the days of actual real game play expansion, everything from now on will have an eye towards monetizing the end result. This is especially true here where your lead game designer advocates for such.
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny Utrigas
Originally by: Miilla
You know what would really be the icing on the cake at this point in time?
If CCP put a "once only" ad on the log in screen for the NEX store..
I thought this was done already. Could have sworn I saw one. I will have to check on next login.
Don't worry, the ad will be once. Then the colors and text will change and its a new ad! Heck, automate the color background change and you have new one-time only ads!
But wait there's more, they will also send out very helpful articles to your email informing you of NEX. These emails will send you to the very helpful site of evepedia where the evepedia article will detail how to get NEX, what is NEX, what can you buy with NEX, etc. (Sorta what they did with PLEX). Speaking of PLEX, I bet the NEX will link to PLEX which will link to profit sites
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 22:59:00 -
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Um the Russians will sure love and support CCP. Their botting revenue will skyrocket selling and buying NEX items and currency. The Russians are never your friends.
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